Curse

shmek · Oct 28, 2007, 03:45 AM // 03:45

[QUOTE=Government Flu]No, it's not. As one or more posters have already mentioned, lockpicks and keys in general are a gamble. The chances of getting something good are, always were, and should continue to be, low. QUOTE] Wrong ... maybe you didn't play in prophesies only when a gold item meant max stats.

Correct..... about the gold sinks.

Dean Harper · Oct 28, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

/notsigned

messing with the economy jsut so you get a few extra golds is not worth it

TheLichMonky · Oct 28, 2007, 06:57 AM // 06:57

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Originally Posted by w00t!

/notsigned

Req 8 15^50 Chaos Axe in FoW. About 250 picks there too....

Seems like GW:EN chests in NM give a higher percentage of grapes than other areas, but I guess that's just my luck...

So, because you get a good drop, makes this improving a bad idea? Kekeke

Red Sonya · Oct 28, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04

/unsigned because this would just feed the fire of bot farmers and chest running in hard mode. Sorry, but, you take your chances just like everyone else when you go chest farming or open locked chests. If you're SILLY enough to BUY keys then you deserve what you get. I only open locked chests if a KEY DROPS for me while I'm playing. Thus, I don't lose a dime and purples have some nice mods on them I can use. Everything doesn't have to be PERFECT to be useful or valuable. I sell tons of purples btw, so, it's not like everything has to be gold and perfect. Only greedy people want everything to be gold and easy in this game I see it in ohhhhh so many posts.

N E D M · Oct 28, 2007, 12:16 PM // 12:16

/signed for increased % of golds from chests requiring lockpick

Echuu Ishtar · Oct 28, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

/signed, but instead of all golds make regular tomes replace the grapes. At least they're still useful and you can get almost half your pick money back.

w00t! · Oct 28, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by TheLichMonky

So, because you get a good drop, makes this improving a bad idea? Kekeke

Yes.

Go study statistics. The point that I and others were making is that there is a small probability of a drop so good that it makes up for a significant number of bad drops. So don't expect to open a few chests and make money.

I buy my picks 40 at a time for 50p. That helps, making them only 1.25p per key. With breakage allowance they are less than 1p per key. Merchanting the bad items nets me about 250gp, so I'm only out about 750gp on a bad chest. Doesn't take much of a good item to pay for several chests. For example, a r9 zodiac spawning staff worth 75p that I got recently covers about 100 bad keys.

So in order to make keys worthwhile, you've got to:
1) Know which chests to open and which to not (Deep HM ftw, GW:EN NM ftl)
2) Open lots and lots of chests, auctioning off anything worth 5p or more.
3) Quit complaining and go open more chests.

thedeadlyassassin · Oct 28, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48

/not signed

Sure it sucks, but a garunteed good drop isn't what farming is about

william1975 · Oct 29, 2007, 01:03 AM // 01:03

/not signed

not had any problems with this so far i tend to find majority of purples i get in HM dont break the pick, whereas majprity of golds do.

Also i dont get many purples anyway

terminus123 · Oct 29, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28

/signed

errr.. those purple earthwands and divine focuses with req 13 ahhh!!!!!!!!

Tender Wolf · Oct 29, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

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Originally Posted by william1975

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not had any problems with this so far i tend to find majority of purples i get in HM dont break the pick, whereas majprity of golds do.

Also i dont get many purples anyway

You're lucky then, my pick always breaks and always spawns a purple.

I'm amazed at the number of people who don't agree with this. Fine, then increase the gold drops from hard mode chests. People go out there hoping for a gold to increase their wisdom title or something. Or like someone said, replace the purples with tomes. That would work just fine for me. Or if a purple has to drop, make it a perfect one or something. Just stop making it so that when the pick breaks it also spawns a purple so it's a waste of 1.5k. For what we pay for lockpicks they should at least spawn golds way more than they do. Even if they're not good stats, at least it helps toward a title.

Magnus_1 · Oct 29, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20

/signed

The reason for the low gold drop rate is the farmers using bots. The rest of the player-base shouldn't be punished for what they are doing.

Of course, ANet could fix this by selling gold in their online store...

Solas · Oct 29, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03

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Originally Posted by Magnus_1

Of course, ANet could fix this by selling gold in their online store...

...but then you'd have way more people buying gold online, more inflation, and messing up the econemy, so that perfet chaos axe you just got in a chest would go for nothing

iriyabran · Oct 29, 2007, 01:21 PM // 13:21

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Originally Posted by Arcane Moonshine

/signed for GW:EN only...drops from chests there really suck and you need a lockpick even in normal mode...

/notsigned for the rest of areas

so true
/signed for that

MirkoTeran · Oct 29, 2007, 01:23 PM // 13:23

/notsigned ........

Tender Wolf · Oct 29, 2007, 11:00 PM // 23:00

It happened again today...I had this:

And this is the result:

Wow, not even worth half the price of a lockpick. And so many are saying this doesn't need to be fixed? Unbelieveable...

isamu kurosawa · Oct 29, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

It happened again today...I had this:

And this is the result:

Wow, not even worth half the price of a lockpick. And so many are saying this doesn't need to be fixed? Unbelieveable...

As has been stated many times over, chests are a gamble. The best way to get a decent payout is to open hundreds of chests at a time.

Anyway, if chest loot was set to always be a rare then the items you get would no longer be worth as much due to the sudden flood of rares.

pixiLated · Oct 29, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

/notsigned

I have the game's lousiest luck with drops. Would I like to have a chance at better drops. Hell yeah!

But to reiterate what umpteen others have said before me, chests are a gold sink and a gamble. You don't like what you are getting? Stop gambling.

ValaOfTheFens · Oct 30, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

I'd like to get gems or even just a big pile of crafting materials from a Locked Chest. In most cases I'd prefer 45 Bolts of Linen to some crappy grape. In extremely hard areas there should be a chance of getting 2 items.

/not signed for increasing golds in locked chests
/signed for increasing the variety of items in locked chests

HawkofStorms · Oct 30, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

It happened again today...I had this:

And this is the result:

Wow, not even worth half the price of a lockpick. And so many are saying this doesn't need to be fixed? Unbelieveable...

I'm so sorry that some of us aren't so short sighted as to only demand things that would benefit us, and are instead thinking for the community and economy as a whole.